Since december 2012 Battlestations: Midway is supported by GameSpy no longer. The only one possibility for Midway players is GameRanger. Please visit www.gameranger.com, download Gameranger client and make new account. You can find other Midway players in the Gameranger rooms. BS:M patch 1.1.1 is required to play online battles. Iowa Mission Pack and Midway Modders Mappacks 1 and 2 are recommended.

Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

The hardest mission to beat by achieving gold medal is the submarine mission crucial cargo. I don't believe if anyone could beat this mission. If you can, please post a video about it. I managed to achieve gold medal in every other challenge room, but not in this.

Don't just talk about tactics, for i have scouted everything, post videos instead. My biggest problem are the patrol boats - once i sink the 2 destroyers, the patrol boats come at me instantly. No chance of fighting them on surface (even though i manage to sink the cruisers), because the SS simply sux, and hilariously the patrol boats have a 3.5 inch gun..

I  will remind that in order to achieve the gold medal, all the ships must be sunk.

Artas1984
Warrant Officer
Activity Points: 143
ranks
useravatar
Offline
20 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

On the contrary, my friend, it is actually quite simple to achieve a gold medal on this map.

The Primary objective is to sink the 2 important ships, and the secret objectives are to sink all escorts and all cargo ships.

Right off the back, the first thing you will want to do is make sure that you sink both cruisers, both destroyers and both troop transports BEFORE you surface the first time, so right away those ships are your priorities.

Remember, except for the cruisers it only takes 2 torpedos to sink the ships here.  So depending on your distance from the ship, you will want to lead your target (aim slightly ahead of the ships.)  You're going to want to maximize your torpedo usage here... the more ships you sink with torps, the less you will have to sink with your deck gun.

Regarding the PT boats... rest assured, once you sink enough vessels, they will actually stop following you and you will be able to sink the remaining ships unhindered.

Triviaman
Spam Police
Administrator
Activity Points: 3145
ranks
useravatar
Offline
1632 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

I am sorry admin, but you have not achieved this mission on gold; i know that by the way you speak and some logic errors in you text:

Triviaman wrote:



Right off the back, the first thing you will want to do is make sure that you sink both cruisers, both destroyers and both troop transports BEFORE you surface the first time, so right away those ships are your priorities.

It does not work that way.. If you have played the mission on gold, you knew that this talk is BS. You can't even sink the 2 important cargo ships, because the mission will end - you have to sink them in the very end. Another error of your's was the the surface for air - i surface for air even before i sink the cruisers at least 2 or 3 times. Third error - the PT boats swarm you right after you sink the destroyers, and after you sink the 2 DD, you have time just to sink the heavy cruiser with 4 torps and 100 % accuracy, before the PT boats come at you, then you have to hide asap; and the PT do not stop hunting you, unlike you said. Another thing - the column moves too forward and then the dive bombers come at you. At my best day i have managed to sink the 2 DD, then sank the CA, then destoeyed one PT boat, sank another CL, sank another PT boat, and by the time i started to blast the cargo ships, the dive bombers started coming..

The way you responded was straight out of the strategy-wiki textbook - that does not help me at all... But of course, thank you anyway. Just the fact that the forum is not dead means something, though i would not tell that it is alive either.

I for instance, always pay video tributes to the games i love most, so was wondering about walk the walk, not talk the talk.

Artas1984
Warrant Officer
Activity Points: 143
ranks
useravatar
Offline
20 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

If you speak of crucial cargo, I have gotten really close to getting the gold on it a long time ago... like real close, but usually either the last cargo ship gets away or the Pete recon plane gets me first. The entire idea here is to kill the first few PT boats and DD's without losing as much health as possible and without wasting as much time as possible so you can move on to remove the cruiser and armed cargo ships asap (you need as much health as possible so you can take that random shell that hits you so your not stuck underwater, you move faster on the surface). What that meant for me is that I ran straight at the first DD, I kept surfacing and diving till I got practically two feet from the DD and launched I think it was 2 or 3 torpedos, which will kill it, move on to the next DD with the same rushing tactic and kill him off, if I sustained too much damage from the DD's id reset and try again. once the DD's are gone using your deck gun or machine gun to quickly pick off the PT boat, your gonna need some real good aiming, if your still well green in HP dont worry if those PT boats get close and use their gun against you, you can take the hits.

As soon as you get rid of the first force, move at full speed, I learnt to conserve torpedos, so use your guns to take out the easy cargo ships since you will need plenty of torpedos to kill the last few cargo ships and the last few escorts, if you run outta torpedos, reset and try again using less. The main problem tho is that you cant get caught up with the escorts, if you waste too much time the cargo ships will be far too head of you and youll never catch them. The main problem of this map is the pete recon plane that comes up near the end when your almost at the top of the map, just when you think your almost home free he'll drop his insta death depth charges on you. I cant recall what I did to get around him, I dont think I ever figured it out, but if you stay surfaced he may not drop his depth charges.

In the end I never beat it... usually the last cargo ship gets away just when I thought I had it in the bag.

TL;DR, you want as much HP as long as possible so you can stay on the surface as long as possible, as long as you do that and pop the cruiser and other escorts in a timely fashion the rest will fall as long as the airplane doesnt kill you first.

Support me on Twitter!

http://twitter.com/Tipsymahn260

Tipsy3000
American Idiota! ;D
Commodore
Activity Points: 943
ranks
useravatar
Offline
1029 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

Artas...

the idea is to IGNORE the PT boats... sinking them is exactly what causes those divebombers to appear

And what I am saying is NOT BS, because I happen to have gotten gold on this map THREE times.

Triviaman
Spam Police
Administrator
Activity Points: 3145
ranks
useravatar
Offline
1632 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

Triviaman, what Tripsy said was much close to the real scenario. In his case my problem would be dealing with the PT boats, at which i sux though when firing from artillery... In your case, you would ignore the PT boats. You say you finished this 3 times  - i'd like to see videos how do you ignore the PT boats and sink all the rest cargo ships in time, not just talk. And 2 things you said were BS indeed, i will repeat - you must sink the 2 cargo ships in the very end, and you must surface earlier. So no offensive, but i was right.

Tripsy, after you sink the 2 DD, you can't really engage in a surface combat vs PT boats, until you sink the CA.. Actually you can't engage in any surface combat until you sink the CA, for it's guns reach you anywhere. Sinking PT boats in random luck too.

Artas1984
Warrant Officer
Activity Points: 143
ranks
useravatar
Offline
20 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

I did NOT say you have to sink the two important ships last.

In fact, you can sink the first one any time you want, it's the second one you have to save for last.

Though I also forgot to say, I have also failed this map many times, and the three golds were through practice alone (and sometimes luck.)

The only reason why my advice my not always be effective is that since the crucial ships are random each time, that means different tactics are ncessary each time.

Triviaman
Spam Police
Administrator
Activity Points: 3145
ranks
useravatar
Offline
1632 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

I did not notice something: do the 2 primary objective cargo ships appear at random positions every time? But more important - is there a scenario where the 2 important ships appear in the end of the column?

Artas1984
Warrant Officer
Activity Points: 143
ranks
useravatar
Offline
20 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

This is the only mission where i have not yet achieved gold in the whole BSM. Can anybody make some video about the correct strategy in this mission? Talk is cheap, don't be lazy guys!

Artas1984
Warrant Officer
Activity Points: 143
ranks
useravatar
Offline
20 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

Actually, I have a gold medal on crucial cargo, and once I get started on youtube, I will post a video on it.

Tips: Ignore PT boats       
        Use crush depth freely
        Mikuma, Kitakami, and the 2 destroyers are your top priority.

Midway and Pacific as Adm2805

Adm2805
Battlestations Veteran
Commodore
Activity Points: 4172
ranks
useravatar
Offline
735 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

Adm2805 wrote:

Actually, I have a gold medal on crucial cargo, and once I get started on youtube, I will post a video on it.

Tips: Ignore PT boats
        Use crush depth freely
        Mikuma, Kitakami, and the 2 destroyers are your top priority.

Hey, are you going to submit Battlestations Midway walkthrough videos in youtube with gold medal? It be great to see the custom missions done on gold medal, but keep in mind that i have the main gold medal walkthrough videos of Battlestations Midway already:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL … e=view_all

So don't bother to duplicate them, and waste time, unless you are making it on hard difficulty.

Artas1984
Warrant Officer
Activity Points: 143
ranks
useravatar
Offline
20 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

I'm new to the game and watched your Pearl (Gold) video, Artas. Your good. Better to watch these videos then jump into the game cold. Will watch all the rest.

See yas soon

Hookman 843
Seaman
Activity Points: 18
ranks
useravatar
Offline
2 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Re: Crucial cargo is impossible on gold medal

Yes, I plan to do the missions with a gold medal. However, I really only want to do the missions on normal difficulty. By the way, what do you mean by custom missions? do you mean midway mappacks?

Midway and Pacific as Adm2805

Adm2805
Battlestations Veteran
Commodore
Activity Points: 4172
ranks
useravatar
Offline
735 Posts
User info in posts
Administrator has disabled public posting

Board Info

Board Stats:
 
Total Topics:
1688
Total Polls:
69
Total Posts:
23035
Posts this week:
1
User Info:
 
Total Users:
19858
Newest User:
Jameseloxy
Members Online:
0
Guests Online:
770

Online: 
There are no members online

Forum Legend:

 Topic
 New
 Locked
 Sticky
 Active
 New/Active
 New/Locked
 New Sticky
 Locked/Active
 Active/Sticky
 Sticky/Locked
 Sticky/Active/Locked

Login Form

Battlestations Shoutbox

Latest Message: 1 week, 4 days ago
  • Legendary Da : Hi everyone, I have one (or two) quick question about BS:M modding. I try to figure out sp mapmaking, and my first act on it was to convert a MP map to SP. However I can only play as Allies in those maps. What parameter do I have to change to play those maps as Japanese in the respective map .mpak (And where is the parameter I have to change?)?
  • N_Trainz : G'day mates, I just wanted to let those who use Windows 10 and also for those who are having troubles getting the game launching because of Games for Windows LIVE, I made a tutorial of how to get it working successfully again like on Windows 8.1. Its on my channel and here's the link to the video. «link»
  • Mokeo67 : The dictator, I downloaded the mmod2txm and I added four slots to the fletcher and a couple to the lexington.Thanks for the help though.
  • The Dictator : Makeo67 i've explained how to find the unused slots in the topic and the mmod2txm it's a program that has been shared. However there aren't so many ships with unused platforms and sme of them are in wrong positions and for move them you need to know how to change the mmod file. But if you know how to do it you can make new platfors as you want. I've shared the south dakota disposition and this one is the most intersting in my opinion
  • N_Trainz : Well it looks like we have spammers again
  • Mokeo67 : No problem Thanks for the help
  • Axis_Crusher : Not really
  • Mokeo67 : Ok thanks anyway. Do you know who does?
  • Axis_Crusher : Unfortunately I don't deal with that part of modding
  • Mokeo67 : Sorry forgot the link. «link»
  • Mokeo67 : This is the forum topic I meant. The dictator said he found the unused slots in the TXM file obtainable with the mmod2txm, what is this and is it available to use.
  • Axis_Crusher : This is your best bet: «link»
  • Mokeo67 : Also I saw on the forum that ships have unused platform slots. How do I use these?
  • Mokeo67 : I tried changing the bogue class carrier to a yorktown class in the phillipene sea mission and one of two things happened. The mission either didnt change or the game crashed.
  • Axis_Crusher : No problem
  • Mokeo67 : That is what im talking about. Ill have a look at it later thanks for the help
  • Axis_Crusher : specific mission’s 3_scene mpak file by working on the .lua file. There is where the bonus unit is actually added into the mission (by the script). I haven't tried it myself so good luck.
  • Axis_Crusher : I assume you are talking about the bonus units that you unlock for certain missions by completing previous ones (like the B - 25’s in the 2nd Battle of Guadalcanal). The bonus units are unlocked by completing certain objectives in the campaign - so that is linked to your campaign progress. Since that cannot be altered you must look at the missiontree.lua file. This is where the unit will show up unlocked on the mission screen. There are references to allunitslock. Also you will have to edit the
  • Mokeo67 : Thank you I will look in this file. I did unlock all the campaign missions, all you have to do is delete the text after 'prerequisite' and it will unlock. But I havent figured out how to unlock the bonus units.
  • Axis_Crusher : I also prefer it being off, just as most of the BSM community. Most players, however prefer repair to be enabled so that is what we should do. Most of our maps it will be disabled through the script however. If you want to play with the game's repair settings you can find it under shipglobals.lua

Only registered users are allowed to post

Latest Posts

Now Online

None

Birthdays

HyTech Send PM
birthday will Sunday, 11 December 2016

Nemesisgr Send PM
birthday will Sunday, 11 December 2016

R4tzer Send PM
birthday will Sunday, 11 December 2016

Mad.fin.69 Send PM
birthday will Thursday, 15 December 2016

Szlachcico Send PM
birthday will Thursday, 15 December 2016